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Delivering on the Promise of Tele-Underwriting by Using
Experienced
Underwriters to Conduct Interviews
By Lincoln Tedeschi, President, IBU, Inc.,
and Lynn Dreist, FLMI, Director of Underwriting Research, IBU, Inc.

Executive Summary
With the insurance industry becoming increasingly competitive, Home Offices
are under tremendous pressure to issue policies more quickly, at the lowest
cost while maintaining or improving mortality and morbidity. Executives and
managers have optimized internal underwriting operations and streamlined
processes to achieve the highest possible levels of efficiency. Companies
have tried everything from downsizing and outsourcing to off-shoring and
expert systems in attempts to save time and reduce costs. Now, a new model
has emerged that is delivering the bottom line results Home Offices are
looking for. It is based on utilizing the talents of experienced
underwriters to conduct telephone interviews with applicants to improve the
data collection process, speed time service and reduce the need for
attending physician statements (APS).
Bringing Tele-Underwriting to the Next Level
Tele-underwriting is not a new concept in the life/health insurance
industry. The model, introduced nearly ten years ago, was based on using
customer service call center interviewers to gather medical history
information from applicants. Following a strict script and drill down
questions, interviewers gathered the necessary background and provided the
information back to Home Office underwriters. The promise, as prognosticated
by a host of gurus and consulting firms, was that tele-underwriting would
dramatically reduce cycle times and eliminate the need for ordering
unnecessary APS’s.
The problem is that tele-underwriting has not been able to consistently
deliver on its promise. Over the past ten years, many companies have
implemented tele-underwriting programs and found mixed results at best. The
question for the underwriting industry is, why is there a disconnect between
the promise and the reality?
As everyone in the underwriting industry knows, telephone interviews with
life insurance applicants are rarely straightforward. Until now, the model
for conducting calls has focused on creating a near-infinite number of drill
down questions to cover every possible scenario associated with risk
assessment. Today, a better solution is at hand. Rather than refining the
questions, the new model for tele-underwriting looks at who is doing the
asking.
In the traditional approach to tele-underwriting, the people conducting the
interviews rarely, if ever, had any specific underwriting experience and
didn’t possess the knowledge required to derive relevant risk selection
information from the applicant. This is why the results from this model have
remained between fairly good and very poor.
The new model for tele-underwriting is based on using the talent and
intuition of experienced, professional underwriters to conduct phone
interviews with applicants. Developed by IBU, Inc., an outsourcing partner
to the life and health insurance industry, the new model is already proving
its ability to deliver more reliable and comprehensive reports, better risk
classification, and faster time service.
Tele-Underwriting With Real Results
To date, over 30 insurance companies in the United States and the United
Kingdom are utilizing the new tele-underwriting model. By large measure, all
are experiencing extremely positive results.
ERIE Family Life, a mid-sized individual and group life insurance company
based in Pennsylvania and operating in 11 states, started using the
“interviews by underwriters” model in September 2003. Since that time, ERIE
has ordered more than 2,000 interviews by underwriters. The result: ERIE has
been able to confidently eliminate the need for APS’s in seven out of nine
cases where they would have been necessary under the old tele-underwriting
model.
“With the interviews by underwriters tele-underwriting model, we’re getting
much more thorough and detailed reports,” according to Jay Mauri, VP of
Underwriting at ERIE Family Life. “You can tell it’s a seasoned underwriter
conducting the interview. They don’t stick nearly as closely to the script.
They listen to the interviewee and mold their questions based on the
responses given. The result is that the information is far more what we’re
looking for.”
In terms of reducing cost and improving time service, the interviews by
underwriters model is proving its value. According to Mauri, in the seven
out of nine cases where they no longer have to order an APS, their time
service is typically under five days as opposed to three weeks or more. And,
they’re saving around $80 per application in raw costs by not ordering the
APS. Though the program is still young, Mauri is already confident that it
works. “We’re saving probably $50 per application and, if we can do that
2,000 times a year, that goes right to the bottom line. And, if I’m able to
do it without cutting into my mortality, that’s operating savings.”
Rick Gordon, VP of Underwriting at Midland National Life, started using the
interviews by underwriters model in June 2003 and has experienced similar
results. Midland’s Home Office underwriters process about 4,000 applications
per month. Their goal was to reduce their number of APS’s by 20 percent.
“Before we started using IBU, we required APS’s in about 30 percent of our
cases. In just nine months, we’ve been able to drop that number down to 23
percent, which is very substantial,” said Gordon.
An equally important benefit of the interviews by underwriters model,
according to Gordon, is its protective value. “An interview by an
underwriter not only reduces the need for an APS in a lot of cases, but it
identifies the potential higher risk cases where we absolutely need an APS.
Now, when we do order one, we know that we’re getting it for the right
reasons. We’re getting the protective value that justifies the time and
expense.”
Another benefit of the new tele-undewriting model is improved productivity.
“Reviewing an interview by an underwriter typically takes considerably less
time than reviewing an APS. Not only do you have the time service savings in
retrieving the information, but also when the information is received it is
in an easy format for reviewing and making a decision,” said Gordon.
Agents and underwriters alike are embracing the new tele-underwriting model
to use experienced underwriters to conduct medical history interviews with
applicants. Both ERIE Family Life and Midland National have found nearly
unanimous and immediate support from the Home Office and the field. “Our
agents have bought into this very readily because they see us turning their
cases around much more quickly,” said Mauri.
Why the Interviews by Underwriters Model Works
Co-author, Lynn Dreist, FLMI, has experience both as a Home Office
Underwriter and as a tele-underwriting interviewer and has found the
interviews by underwriters model to be an extremely effective tool. Having
come from over nine years in a Home Office setting, my exposure to phone
interviews had been with in-house inspection units and vendors that utilize
non-underwriter personnel. While the inspections provided occasional “hits”
that changed the course of my underwriting, my overall experience was that
the details provided in these interviews had little impact on my
underwriting decision.
If a new health history was noted, it was often not developed completely
enough to take final action, which meant ordering an APS to rule out any
concerns. Conversely, the interviews by underwriters model approaches phone
interviews from a risk assessment perspective, rather than an information
gathering one.
The focus in the interviews by underwriters model is on obtaining the
specific details necessary to take final action on a case. This is
especially true when a new medical history is presented by the proposed
insured. An underwriter conducting the interview can obtain critical
details, which in turn allows the Home Office underwriter to accurately
assess the risk, in many cases without an APS.
“When experienced underwriters conduct the phone interviews, they know
what’s important,” said Jonathon Kuhar, underwriter II at ERIE Family Life.
“Their knowledge about health-related matters creates a sense of trust,
which allows them to establish a conversational tone that is comfortable and
encourages the applicant to open up.”
According to Rick Gordon at Midland National, this comfort level increases
customer satisfaction with the underwriting process, something that is
sometimes overlooked in the quest for greater productivity and cost
reduction. “In the traditional tele-underwriting model, interviewers go
through all the required drill downs without considering the relevance of
the questions,” said Gordon. “We’ve received complaints from applicants that
the drill downs go into effect regardless of what the medical history is.
The interviewer isn’t able to differentiate between when they need the added
detail and when they don’t.”
The flip side is that experienced underwriters also detect early on in the
interview whether or not a case is going to require an APS. For instance, if
an applicant has multiple impairments, the underwriter conducting the
interview can quickly determine which physicians to order an APS from that
would have the most bearing on the underwriting decision. Or, if an
applicant provides a medication history that is inconsistent with the
disclosed impairment, the underwriter can pick up on it and go off-script
very comfortably to probe more deeply.
When To Use an Interview By an Underwriter
Dreist’s role in both conducting more than 3,500 phone interviews with
applicants and reviewing completed cases from other IBU underwriters has
revealed that Home Office underwriters are shifting from ordering an APS to
using an interview by an underwriter for common impairments, such as
hypertension, psychiatric and gastrointestinal disorders, and asthma.
As a tool, interviews by underwriters are most effective when used
appropriately. The question is when to use an interview by an underwriter
versus when to order an APS without compromising the protective value.
There are obvious medical impairments that will always require an APS.
However, if on initial review an underwriter anticipates declining a case,
an interview by an underwriter is often a good first step. This is
especially true for informal applications. An interview by an underwriter
can help a Home Office underwriter make a tentative offer. If at that point
the agent feels a rated case cannot be placed, the file can be closed
without incurring the additional expense of obtaining medical records.
To assist Home Office Underwriters in using interviews by underwriters most
effectively, a comprehensive guideline was developed based on 15 human body
classifications and 216 impairment-specific subcategories. By combining a
guideline along with the gut instincts of the Home Office Underwriter, the
Home Office Underwriting department can begin to utilize the model of using
an interview by an underwriter in lieu of ordering an APS.
For example, in most cases of hypertension, Dreist suggests ordering an
interview by an underwriter on initial review. Most proposed applicants are
able to provide a date of diagnosis, frequency of follow-ups, pre-treatment
and average blood pressure readings, current medication, and any medication
adjustments necessary to control blood pressure. This information, in
conjunction with current readings gathered from the paramedical exam, allows
Home Office Underwriters to accurately assess the risk and take final
action. There are, of course, hypertension cases where we would recommend
ordering an APS on initial review. For example, such cases include when
hypertension is combined with a disclosed history of renal or peripheral
vascular disease, diabetes or significant CV factors on exam.
The following chart outlines how the guidelines would apply to for case
involving the impairment of hypertension.
| Classification |
Sub-category |
Recommendation |
| Cardiology
|
Hypertension |
Order an interview by an underwriter unless
any of the following are disclosed:
Known renal disease
Currently pregnant with significant BP elevation on exam
History of significant cardiac or vascular disease
Smoker age >50 with recent or sudden onset
Age >60 with recent or sudden onset
Individual >40 with several significant CV risk factors present
on exam |
In addition to impairment guidelines, individual companies are developing
their own internal guidelines based on the age of the applicant and the face
amount of the policy. “If you’re dealing with the 65 plus market, the APS is
more likely to be asked for more often,” said to Jay Mauri at ERIE. “We have
a fairly young group that we insure with moderate sized policies, which
makes it appropriate for us to use interviews by underwriters. In addition,
doctors today are treating more quickly than they used to. They are
prescribing medications more readily. If someone has blood pressure barely
into high normal, they’ll prescribe a blood pressure pill. What the
interview by an underwriter does is to help us weed out those people who
have received treatment but don’t have a serious impairment.”
Midland National initially established a guideline to use interviews by
underwriters for cases involving applicants aged 20-45 with $500,000 face
amount, and for ages 46-60 with $250,000 face amount. “At this point based
on our experience with the interviews by underwriters model, we see
opportunities to expand these parameters,” said Gordon. “We’re now looking
at using it for the 61-65 group with $100,000 face value. The feedback from
our underwriters has been absolutely positive because of the high level of
detail that we’re getting.”
The bottom line in determining how best to apply the interviews by
underwriters model, according to Mauri, is to first understand the business
you have. “The thing a VP of Underwriting should ask himself is, where are
you ordering APS’s now? Of those that came in, how many were examined and
what were the results? What’s your distribution source? What’s your
mortality right now? What’s your age and product distribution? You have to
look at all of these things in order to establish an effective process for
underwriting.”
Conclusion
Over the last four years, companies that have used the interviews by
underwriters model to conduct telephone interviews have experienced
measurable bottom line impact on time service and underwriting capacity.
Most interviews are completed in less than three days, versus an average 20
days for an APS. Good risks get on the books faster – before the inevitable
buyer’s remorse that life insurance applicants experience if the case is
pending too long.
Of course, faster time service also means happier agents. Companies are
competing for distribution with faster time service and commissions to
provide an edge over the competition. With fewer APS’s to read, the Home
Office underwriting department is able to increase it’s underwriting
capacity without the difficulty and expense of hiring experienced
underwriters.
Companies using underwriters to conduct telephone interviews also gain the
benefit of reducing their new business acquisition cost. With an average
cost of an interview by an underwriter at $26, the cost advantage is
significant over the average cost of an APS.
Whether Home Offices use in-house underwriters or they outsource to a vendor
that uses experienced underwriters to conduct telephone interviews, it
offers a win-win solution, according to Mauri. “We’re spending less time on
the cases that don’t need it, which allows us to spend more time on the
cases that do. All the way around, it’s saving us time and money.”
About the Authors
Lincoln Tedeschi is founder and president of Interviews by Underwriters
(IBU) Inc. An innovative concept in life and health underwriting, IBU has
established the model for using experienced, professional underwriters to
conduct phone interviews with insurance applicants. Lincoln is a well-known
and respected leader in the utilization of life/health insurance
underwriting talent. He began his career in 1986 as a District Agent for
Prudential Life, where after just one year he was promoted to Sales Manager
responsible for recruiting and staffing five agencies. The role gave Lincoln
broad experience that, in 1992, led him to become a recruiter with RJS
Associates. There, he specialized in recruiting professionals from line
underwriters to vice presidents for life and health insurance companies
throughout the country. In 1999, Lincoln conceived of and established IBU
with the vision to tap into the talent of underwriters who wanted to work
from home to conduct telephone interviews for Home Office Underwriting
departments. Lincoln is a Certified Personnel Consultant and holds a BA in
Economics at the University of Connecticut.
Lynn Dreist, FLMI, is the director of underwriting research at IBU, Inc. In
her two years at IBU, Lynn has personally conducted over 3,500 telephone
interviews with insurance applicants. In her role with the company, she is
responsible for both completing interviews and reviewing completed cases
from other IBU underwriters. Recently, she finished a research effort to
compile a comprehensive guideline to assist underwriters on when to order an
interview by an underwriter versus when to order an APS. Lynn joined IBU
with over nine years underwriting experience after working with major
national carriers including Northwestern Mutual Life, American General and
Milwaukee Life in Milwaukee, WI. Lynn holds a BA degree in English from the
University of Wisconsin-Madison.

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